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marycrawford ([personal profile] marycrawford) wrote2003-07-12 05:41 pm

All kinds of demi-god goodness

More gorgeous Hercules desktop art from [livejournal.com profile] dbw here. I love the head shot of Hercules and PissedOff!Iolaus.

And here, a bunch of gen writers (including some of my favorites: Arianna and Melisande) plan to rewrite all the Hercules: the Legendary Journeys first season episodes, including the first five two-hour movies. Why? To make 'em more consistent (but continuity is for wimps! Michael Hurst himself said so! ahaha) and to make Iolaus a central figure in all the eps.

It's wild, it's ambitious, and it's exactly the kind of madly fannish thing that I just love. Like re-editing Star Wars: the Phantom Menace so that there's hardly a trace left of Jar-Jar.

The rewritten episodes are coming in september. I have no idea whether they'll be in script/TV format or genuine stories. I do hope it's the latter. In the meantime, the writers have given us their version of the introduction to each ep:
But the demigod did not stand alone. Regardless of the dangers, one courageous mortal stood with the Son of Zeus, to face evil and destroy the wicked, to safeguard the innocent and stand for hope in adversity. That mortal was Iolaus of Thebes, son of Skouros, the Golden Hunter...


I hope they don't call him "the Golden Hunter" too much in these new stories - that's a ubiquitous bit of fanon I've grown rather tired of. But otherwise: go, sisters! Go!

[identity profile] ltlj.livejournal.com 2003-07-12 10:34 am (UTC)(link)

Actually "Golden Hunter" isn't really fanon. It was used on the licensed Creation Iolaus t-shirts, so it's something that was from the show.

Well, I never..

[identity profile] marycrawford.livejournal.com 2003-07-12 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for telling me, I had no idea.

OK, so it's still overused in fanfic IMO, but that it's actually canon is still pretty damn cool. Wish I had one of those shirts.

BTW, I do love that bit in Where Hellmouths Collide, where Hercules (I think) explains that 'All heroes acquire those names after awhile: I'm the son of Zeus, he's Jason of the Argonauts, she's the Warrior Princess...' and Buffy and Willow practically squeeing over Iolaus being called the Golden Hunter. :-)

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[identity profile] ltlj.livejournal.com 2003-07-12 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)

The shirts are incredibly cool. They still show up on ebay occasionally. The image they use is this one (http://www.rtis.com/nat/user/chimera/images1/iwithbow2.jpg) except it has an airbrushed look almost.

BTW, I do love that bit in Where Hellmouths Collide, where Hercules (I think) explains that 'All heroes acquire those names--

Thanks! That whole bit was in there to set up the line about Xander's name being "That Guy with the Slayer, the Watcher and the Witch" and how it wouldn't look great on a t-shirt. :)


Martha

Re: Well, I never..

[identity profile] amorettea.livejournal.com 2003-07-14 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Now I was told by one of the old Iolausians that the "Golden Hunter" WAS fanon. I don't recall it ever used on the show but someone (I am terrible with names or I'd tell you who) said they talked to someone at Cremation before the shirt came out, mentioned that the fans called him "The Golden Hunter" and then, ta-da! The Shirt. Which hangs over a chair in my computer room as inspiration. Yum.

If anyone can tell me the episode the phrase appears in, I'd stand corrected but I think the old Iolausians are right. It is fanon. Like stories in which Iolaus' late wife made his vest. I see that so often and have run into people who thought there was a reference in the show at some point to that effect but there wasn't.

Amorette

Re: Well, I never..

[identity profile] marycrawford.livejournal.com 2003-07-15 07:35 am (UTC)(link)
No, I don't think Iolaus was ever called 'the Golden Hunter' on the show. Pity. (Not that I have all the episodes memorized or anything. No. Really.)

If the Creation people incorporated a bit of fanon into a t-shirt, well, is it then canon or ain't it? And are T-shirts canon to begin with? Clearly, these are questions for the ages :-)

We should make a list of all the things that are so fanon people think they're canon. The thing with Iolaus' vest is a great example.
And was it ever established on the show that Iolaus is a couple of years older than Hercules?

Iolaus' age

[identity profile] amorettea.livejournal.com 2003-07-15 09:53 am (UTC)(link)
This was from the show. In Armageddon Part II (which I was dubbing today for someone) young Almene says to Iolaus that there is a two year old in the village named Iolaus who steals pastries. Iolaus looks embarrassed and says "different guy" but I think it's him. And I THINK in "Surprise," when Hercules and Iolaus are on the way to the party, Iolaus is teasing Hercules about his wrinkles. Hercules points out that Iolaus is older but Iolaus replies something about having less surface area to wear.

Amorette

Re: Iolaus' age

[identity profile] marycrawford.livejournal.com 2003-07-15 10:42 am (UTC)(link)
There, proof that I don't have the eps memorized! Thanks, Amorette.
(And I agree, of course it's Iolaus, why else would he be so embarrassed? Great moment, that.)